Case 5070: Order failed, this company is sketchy / fraud.

Voting is now closed. Vote ended in Posted Violation / BANNED.  Multiple Violations
  • Fraud (Bank, Wire, Criminal, etc)
  • Filed 2010-Mar-22
  • Closed 2010-Apr-15
  • Last Modified 2010-Apr-15
Complainant - Non-Member
Jay Singh, BestBuys Trading Co
745 North Drive, Suite C
Coastal Technology Center
Melbourne, FL  32934
United States
Defendant - Banned from Tradeloop
Banned from Tradeloop
Sabien Barthez, SI Tech
600 Brooker Creek
Tampa, FL  33601
United States
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#5070-1637 - 22-Mar-2010 2:56 PM   permalink to post 5070-1637
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
statement of the facts:We bought hard drives from company SITECH. After we wire the money we could not find SITECH. We filed report with Sheriff s office in Melbourne Florida. Two days later after we fine the complaint we received hard drives but they were all dumped in a big boxes. These hard drives were supposed to be clean tested, working pulled hard drives and should have come packed in Hard drive boxes. We have 24 drives failed so far. It will cost 15 hours of labor to test them and $300 material. Our problem is we can not find SITECH.

Their web site is www.sitech1.com but no address

SITECH claims operation in Mobile Alabama, Texas. None of their phone is listed. Sheriff is telling this company does not exist and the name of bank account is also not same. The owner name Sabien Barthez is actually Ms Hussain. We need to know where SITECH is. Is this company even exists. I request Tradeloop to look verify their existence and their address. I suggest SITECH should send Tradeloop their registration, warehouse pictures with SITECH and valid company address.
#5070-1638 - 22-Mar-2010 3:49 PM   permalink to post 5070-1638
Ethics Coordinator
Tradeloop Corporation
Ethics Posts: 3,056
Dear Sabien Barthez, of SI Tech,

Tradeloop has received a complaint against your company. Per the Tradeloop Terms of Service Agreement and Code of Ethics, all members must respond to ethics complaints. If you do not respond within seven days, the community will be notified that you failed to respond and you will be banned from the service.

Please post a response to the complaint. If you have any questions please address them to ethics06@tradeloopcorp.com.

Best Regards,
Tradeloop Ethics Coordinator
#5070-1644 - 24-Mar-2010 8:58 AM   permalink to post 5070-1644
Committee Member
Ethics Posts: 1,019
This probably isn't the kind of question you want to hear Jay, but you wired a company money and THEN couldn't find their company details?

Isn't that a little bit backwards? Personally I check a company out before wiring any money at all.

You then make a legal complaint but receive the drives 2 days later.

May I ask how many drives and what kind of drives they were?

I'm sorry I'm obviously missing something but how did you do a deal if you couldn't correspond?

#5070-1646 - 24-Mar-2010 9:13 PM   permalink to post 5070-1646
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
Yes I talked with Sabien regarding his address, he said he uses Bank Of America in Tampa florida. His company address was Tampa Florida also. We called bank and bank said yes everything is correct.

After we wired the money to Sabien, things started showing up differntly. His address in Tampa was not right with bank of america. Sabien said his warehouse is in Mobile Alabama.

All I want from Tradeloop is to find out where is SITECH operation with address.

#5070-1648 - 26-Mar-2010 4:15 AM   permalink to post 5070-1648
Defendant
Ethics Posts: 15
I plan to log in this afternoon and address all relevant issues in more detail.

Thanks,
Sabien
#5070-1649 - 26-Mar-2010 9:07 AM   permalink to post 5070-1649
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28

If you already loged on to say I will log on today, why can you just type your address and valid documents such as company registration showing SITECH. I have been asking you for month now. How come you can just say here is my warehouse and pictures. I have received several emails from others regarding how you have scamed her. Check the following

Return-path: <area_pc@hotmail.com>
Envelope-to: jaysingh@bestbuys-trading.com
Delivery-date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:48:44 -0500
Received: from col0-omc3-s10.col0.hotmail.com ([65.55.34.148]:18624)
by rezzo.websitewelcome.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69)
(envelope-from <area_pc@hotmail.com>)
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for jaysingh@bestbuys-trading.com; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:48:44 -0500
Received: from COL124-DS7 ([65.55.34.137]) by col0-omc3-s10.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959);
Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:48:45 -0700
X-Originating-IP: [189.190.140.79]
X-Originating-Email: [area_pc@hotmail.com]
Message-ID: <COL124-DS740D756EE420AE233B23194260@phx.gbl>
From: <area_pc@hotmail.com>
To: "Jay Singh" <jaysingh@bestbuys-trading.com>
References: <a59c69872c563afe9b6b313547c1d386@relay1.olx.com>
In-Reply-To: <a59c69872c563afe9b6b313547c1d386@relay1.olx.com>
Subject: Re: USED COMPUTADORS SABIE BARTHEZ WWW.SITECH1.COM CARE EXPECTATIONS
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:48:43 -0600
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Thanks!&nbsp; i need to do something because i need to
return my money.,today in my countri i have somre problems with the law, because
Sabien stolen me, so i cant to give the computers to my clients.. so if you can
to some thing or&nbsp; give a idea.. it is ok..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Thanks!</FONT></DIV>
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#5070-1655 - 27-Mar-2010 1:21 AM   permalink to post 5070-1655
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
Why are you not logged... where is your company...
#5070-1664 - 29-Mar-2010 5:22 PM   permalink to post 5070-1664
Defendant
Ethics Posts: 15

Regarding the matter of Jay Singh, and his complaint, in which he keeps contradicting himself every couple of days because it is all false rhetoric and without substance, we found the only way to resolve this is through our attorneys in courts of law. This is after we collected a host of documents in this regard. Again, as was stated previously, due to his previous threats to my office and staff, any inquiries from Singh will be forwarded to counsel.

Counsel already sent certified letters informing him of the action being taken against him, he has avoided the receipt of these letters, the last time being Friday, March 26, 2010, refusing to sign for and receive the mail. This indicates an unwillingness on his part to stop these libelous, slanderous and defamatory actions against us. We had no choice, in order to protect our good name and livelihood, but to retain counsel in this matter and, due to his continuing false accusations, proceed with legal action in this case. Therefore, anything regarding this matter will be referred to their office, according to their request.

#5070-1665 - 29-Mar-2010 5:39 PM   permalink to post 5070-1665
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
Another bull crap for not disclosing the company address and name. Why your website has no address? Where is your company. Stop playing games.

What is council doing now?
#5070-1666 - 29-Mar-2010 8:08 PM   permalink to post 5070-1666
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
By the way, I will love to get letter from your counsel. How can you even send a letter when you have not even disclosed that you are real company.

WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS?
#5070-1668 - 30-Mar-2010 4:13 AM   permalink to post 5070-1668
Committee Member
Ethics Posts: 1,019
Dear Sabien

It's a really simple thing, but please let's have your full company address. No ifs, buts, or rhetoric just the address details. It's not a secret thing it's a matter of public record so over to you. By COB today (Tuesday) please.

Regards

Jon
#5070-1669 - 30-Mar-2010 5:01 AM   permalink to post 5070-1669
Adrian Bowmer
Committee Member
Ethics Posts: 209
I am with Jonathan on this one Mr Barthez.
Please inform us of your company address and other relevant details.
At the moment you are prevaricating only, and that is not very productive for any of us .

rgds

Adrian Bowmer
#5070-1674 - 31-Mar-2010 1:37 PM   permalink to post 5070-1674
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
So far Mr Sabien of SI Tech has not provided any relevant evidence of his company. It is obvious that SI Tech is not a real company. There is a solid evidence that this company is fake. Counsel has requested him several times to provide documentation of his company but Sabine is very reluctant to do that. His web site www.sitech1.com is registered domain in Australia. It has no address on it.

I request counsel that he should be suspended from Tradeloop. This company has scamed many people.
#5070-1676 - 31-Mar-2010 4:24 PM   permalink to post 5070-1676
Defendant
Ethics Posts: 15


My apologies for missing the discussion yesterday as I was away. I did get the emails but the log in didn't work through my phone.

Our company information and registration is with Tradeloop and we have no secrets or anything to hide, of course. We would be very glad to send each and every committee member all our company information should any of you want it. There is no prevarication or evasiveness on our part. It is only our written agreement with our attorney in the case stemming from Mr. Singh’s defamatory and slanderous attacks on our company that prevents us to give him further information verbally or in writing without the attorney’s agreement, according to his instructions. The issue is a matter of protection against further escalation of attacks against us, not only through libel, but other means, as there appears to be malicious intent to interfere with our business.

Our mailing is below for open forum (don't think there would be any conflict)
P. O. Box 752
Bagdad FL 32530

The company information is public knowledge and not a secret, and as was mentioned earlier, Tradeloop has all our information. If Mr. Singh has any requests however, they will be handled through the attorney.

Also, for your information, our attorney sent certified letters informing Mr. Singh of the legal action that would be taken against him, yet he has evaded receipt of any of these letters. We are seeking for him to remove the lies and libelous statements made on Tradeloop, his website, and elsewhere, but even though his accusations were found by Tradeloop to be unfounded, he still continues his campaign to hurt our business, forcing us to take this more serious and costly step. He cannot be left to make false accusations without consequences. I ask the committee to at least request that all parties maintain a professional dialog and refrain from telling straight out lies. It's incredibly unfair that these statements can be made with impunity.

Once again thank you for your attention, and accept my apology for the delay.



#5070-1677 - 31-Mar-2010 4:58 PM   permalink to post 5070-1677
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
#5070-1678 - 01-Apr-2010 2:50 AM   permalink to post 5070-1678
Adrian Bowmer
Committee Member
Ethics Posts: 209
Mr Barthez,
Please provide the physical address which you operate from.
No company only operates from a PO Box address.

rgds

Adrian Bowmer
European Hardware Solutions B.V
#5070-1679 - 01-Apr-2010 8:55 AM   permalink to post 5070-1679
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
I would also like to see this company's registration, pictures and valid documentations.

Counsil, this company SI tech is claiming operations all over the world. Please check the links above. If they are so big, they should be fully incorporated. Seems like Mr Barthez operates this operation remotely. How come he is not telling operation in Mobile Alabama as well, that's what he told me.

No one ever answer their phone calls.
#5070-1680 - 01-Apr-2010 3:57 PM   permalink to post 5070-1680
Ethics Coordinator
Tradeloop Corporation
Ethics Posts: 3,056
Sabien,
To make this easier, could you please fax us updated business documents including a TAX ID and your Articles of Incorporation?

We would like to update your file, and this may help clear up some of these questions being presented here.

Regards,
Adam Cirrone
Tradeloop Corporation
Tradeloop Comment
Sabien has contacted Tradeloop in arrangement for faxing over the requested documents.

We are currently awaiting said documents.

Regards,
Adam Cirrone
Tradeloop Corporation
#5070-1681 - 01-Apr-2010 10:09 PM   permalink to post 5070-1681
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
Adam as I posted my pictures with warehouse and bestbuystrading sign, Mr Sabien should do the same, His company should be massive as they are global. Taking pictures of building with SI tech should be easy
#5070-1684 - 05-Apr-2010 6:41 PM   permalink to post 5070-1684
Defendant
Ethics Posts: 15

Tradeloop:

Thank you for your continued attention. Per my conversation with Tradeloop - all pertinent documents will be faxed to Tradeloop and the Ethics Committee for verification again. We request that nothing be shared with Jay Singh / Best Buys Trading. I have forwarded this to our attorney as well.

For the record, Singh again refused to receive or sign for the letters sent to him from our attorney. Despite the typical denials please see the tracking info for your reference: 7008 2810 0002 1527 5778 - USPS.COM

Many Thanks.
#5070-1685 - 05-Apr-2010 9:11 PM   permalink to post 5070-1685
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
Absoluletly un accepbatle.. why would you not share your company information with me. This is so rediculas. You better be not giving false information. There are two fraud cases filed against you, one in Melbourne and other in Texas. You better be faxing information which is in public records.

Tradeloop, I insist, this information what Sabien is sending should be public shared, as he stated in his previous email that nothing is secret.

#5070-1686 - 06-Apr-2010 3:52 AM   permalink to post 5070-1686
Adrian Bowmer
Committee Member
Ethics Posts: 209
I will agree with Mr Singh that it is ridiculous as to why this information should not be made available to him.


@ Adam,have you received anything yet from Mr Barthez ?

@ Mr Barthez : Your continued prevarication and lack of real information is beginning to become irritating to be honest.Company details are a matter of public knowledge so i have no idea what you feel you have to hide if you are a reputable company.As this stands at the moment you have "appearances" against you i feel.Is it so difficult to put a verifiable company address in this forum with phone numbers.

Adrian Bowmer
Tradeloop Comment
Adrian,
Please note that although Sabien has called in several times regarding sending the documents, to date we are yet to receive any information from him.

Regards,
Adam Cirrone
Tradeloop Corporation
#5070-1687 - 06-Apr-2010 10:13 AM   permalink to post 5070-1687
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
Council, it has been weeks since Tradeloop and I have been requesting his registration and legal documents. The fact Sabien wants to keep it secret is clear indication that he is hiding his wareabouts.

I suggest that he should be banned on Tradeloop.
#5070-1690 - 06-Apr-2010 10:26 AM   permalink to post 5070-1690
Ethics Coordinator
Tradeloop Corporation
Ethics Posts: 3,056
Sabien,
At the request of our Ethics Committee you have until close of business Wednesday April 7th, 2010 to provide the requested documents to Tradeloop or this case will be moved to voting.

Regards,
Adam Cirrone
Tradeloop Corporation
#5070-1693 - 06-Apr-2010 2:57 PM   permalink to post 5070-1693
Sherri Sheerr
Committee Member
Ethics Posts: 131
We requested pictures, no pictures. We requested documents, no documents. The phone number provided, is a mobile number. Sabien, help us to help you.

Sherri Sheerr
Keystone Memory Group
#5070-1695 - 07-Apr-2010 1:26 PM   permalink to post 5070-1695
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
Council, I am getting calls from so many people about this Sabien who's wife name is Amina Hussani. They both sacam people. They are in Florida area but they claim operation in Mobile. Please do something. They need to be in prison. Check this email

Author : Selina (IP: 96.232.149.148 , pool-96-232-149-148.nycmny.east.verizon.net)
URL :
Comment:
Hi
Thanks for posting information . I myself believe she is fake as she tried to sell stuff to us when we ask for inspection of systems she start looking for excuses. I believe if someone is serious seller they should allow inspection otherwise there is something fishy!!!. Good Luck for your case i hope you will get back your money.
Selina


#5070-1696 - 07-Apr-2010 5:22 PM   permalink to post 5070-1696
Defendant
Ethics Posts: 15
Dear Tradeloop,


I just got to the office now and as soon as I saw your comments we called your offices to reach Adam or John but were informed by Denise that they are in a meeting along with the Tradeloop staff until close time but that she will leave you a message to that effect. We are waiting for attorney as he was in court but will get out before COB today in order to inform us of what needs to be sent to you.

We are still 4:05 pm CDT and we do not close until 5:00pm you will receive that before COB today via fax. I'm expecting to hear from you in the morning. And we look forward to the speedy dismissal of this unfounded and clearly malicious complaint.

We have a lot to tell about that liar Singh especially after escaped from our attorney's letters that were sent to him refused to sign for them and escaped from the mail man in order to have the attorney's letters returned. He continues to defame us leaving these lies on line. Again, you will be receiving all of this information from us this afternnoon and you'll probably get it in the morning since Denise told us that you are out of the office.


We will be filing and ethics claim against Singh with Tradeloop and we are pursuing a defamation suit in court.

Thank you.


#5070-1697 - 07-Apr-2010 5:43 PM   permalink to post 5070-1697
Committee Member
Ethics Posts: 1,019
Right I've had enough of this charade.

I've run my business for over 13 years, and I've never been "defamed," I've never had to "instruct counsel," and since I've been working on the Ethics Committee all I see is people with complaints against them instructing lawyers and "issuing proceedings" against people who complain about them. It usually follows an easily recognisable pattern, followed by a seeming inability to answer the simplest of straight questions.

I'm not interested in you faxing details to Tradeloop. I'm interested in those details being posted here.

In this thread.

Right now.

You are meant to have your address and company details publicly displayed and verified to be a member of this organisation. You accepted those terms and conditions when you applied for membership.

I am beginning to think you have something to hide and rest assured I'm not alone, and I don't appreciate you treating me like an idiot who can be strung along with excuses.

So either step up and post your address and company contact details here right now, or have the guts to admit that in fact, the complaint could be valid.

This is not looking good for you right now Mr Barthez when it comes to a voting situation, your credibility with me has just about run out.



#5070-1698 - 07-Apr-2010 5:50 PM   permalink to post 5070-1698
Sherri Sheerr
Committee Member
Ethics Posts: 131
Sabien,
You either have an address or you don't. You either have documents or you don't. I don't need the "close of business" to produce an address, or phone number or business id, or a picture or my warehouse. I have run out of patience, I do not appreciate double talk, and as far as I am concerned, your time is up.



#5070-1699 - 07-Apr-2010 6:01 PM   permalink to post 5070-1699
Complainant
Ethics Posts: 28
Sabien I dont care about your attorney strory. All the emails I am posting from other clients are telling the same thing that you are FAKE., No comapny hides their information like you. The steps are so simple. Why can't you post tell the following.
  • EIN number
  • Incorporation Registration of SITECH
  • Pictures of your company warehous with name SITECH
  • Proper Phone number (not cell)
This is no secret information. If you are a real company, this is first thing you share with clients.

Council Mr. Sabien is just dancing. I think you have given him enough time to provide appropriate records, he should be banned by now.
#5070-1700 - 07-Apr-2010 7:12 PM   permalink to post 5070-1700
Ethics Coordinator
Tradeloop Corporation
Ethics Posts: 3,056
Hello Ethics Committee, Defendant, and Complainant:

Sorry about the delay, but at 6:13pm EST today we did receive SI Tech's documents via fax. I have personally uploaded them to the Tradeloop site and you can view them by clicking the link below.

<a href="http://www.tradeloop.com/uploads/projects/attachments/sitechdocs.pdf">Click here to view the faxed documents for SI Tech</a>

Also, please note we are now moving both cases involving Sabien Barthez to the in committee area for discussion, review and voting by our ethics committee.

Regards,
Adam Cirrone
Ethics Coordinator
Tradeloop Corporation
#5070-1702 - 07-Apr-2010 7:39 PM   permalink to post 5070-1702
Defendant
Ethics Posts: 15
We already instructed Tradeloop to share all our info with the committee. And NO we will not post anything here. And NO Singh will not get his way by LIES. And YES this matter WILL go to court. Instead of saying that there is no defamation, why don't you track the letter that was sent to Singh by our lawyer?

This whole complaint is because he wants to commit some kind of crime that he has already threatened.

Where is that inability that you talk about?? I already told Tradeloop many many times to share with the comittee our information, we already have been verified by Tradeloop since 2007. What kind of credibility does a liar like Singh have??? Can you answer???

And if you say we are not being defamed, that is not for you decide - that is for a judge and jury in a court of law.

This is what is on Singh's website as of Today 04/07/2010
Anyone knows company SI Tech www.Sitech1.com They offered to sell hard drives. The company bank with Bank of America Florida. We contacted bank and confirmed the account. After the money was transferred, we never got the merchandise. Further investigation revealed this company is a fake company. They forged papers SCN and ID to open up various accounts in USA. The person name is Sabien Barthez, she is a black African women somewher in Florida. They have big operation going on with various company names, even they have fake truking company. We also have filed case in Melbourne Sherif office.
Following are mumbers this company uses which are Majic jack numbers and they claim their operation is in Mobile Alabama, TX

This garbage speaks for itself.

We already went though this with Tradeloop and he admitted that he did indeed receive the merchandise and that he had made a false complaint. Don't allow yourself to be suckered into this charade.

This matter must be settled in courts of law, if Jay Singh is not telling lies why did he escape from the mail delivey from our attorney (4 letters) - sent restricted delivey to him. Why did he escape??? Because he knows that he is going through a hell of trouble ahead of him and he will pay for his lies dearly.

Tradeloop:

We have already faxed you the necessary info. Please inform us should you require anything more.
Many Thanks.
 
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